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Re:What is ‘elite overproduction’? by oldsecondhand on Friday August 20, 2021 @05:39AM (#28244319)
> When successive generations complain about "kids these days", there is a contradiction

It's not a contradiction, if each successive generation is more terrible than the one that came beforehand.

Re:What is ‘elite overproduction’? by shadowfox on Friday August 20, 2021 @06:04AM (#28244442)
> It's not a contradiction, if each successive generation is more terrible than the one that came beforehand.

The OP considered this though, to quote: It's possible that there is a constant decrease in standards, such that every generation is worse than the one before it. But I doubt it. If such a steady decline had been happening since the 8th century BC civilization ought to have collapsed several times over.

Re:What is ‘elite overproduction’? by Pet_Ant on Friday August 20, 2021 @11:03AM (#28246847)
> But I doubt it.

A contradiction leaves no doubt. It's not a contradiction then. A contradiction is not just something that is unlikely or infeasible, it is something impossible. It means that your set of beliefs is flawed and that at least one premise needs to be corrected for them to become consistent.

OldSecondHand is correct that it is possible for each generation to have been worse than the preceeding one. For example, the degradation might be so minute, or we may have started from such lofty heights, or the society has become more resilient to the degradation. It is possible, and therefore no contradiction. ...just unlikely.

Re:What is ‘elite overproduction’? by ethelward on Friday August 20, 2021 @09:32AM (#28245725)
> civilization ought to have collapsed several times over.

Which it did, in some ways.