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Re:DecisionOps: Effective Engineering Management by thinkingkong on Thursday August 19, 2021 @11:55AM (#28235430)
Engineering manager efficacy is easy to measure. Did the team ship on time or not? You can argue about the metric and challenge whether or not its appropriate but at the end of the day thats mostly what teams care about. Everything else around hiring, retention, planning, okrs, etc, etc are all about building a resilient and predictible system in order to achieve the goal of generating more revenue.
Re:DecisionOps: Effective Engineering Management by deegles on Thursday August 19, 2021 @11:58AM (#28235477)
> Did the team ship on time or not?

If you force people to meet a metric, they will. Features will be cut left and right and quality will suffer when shipping is the only goal. A story as old as time itself.

Re:DecisionOps: Effective Engineering Management by sharatsc on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:08PM (#28236429)
Re:DecisionOps: Effective Engineering Management by aplummer on Thursday August 19, 2021 @12:56PM (#28236269)
Yeah and also in a significant amount of cases, the real job is expectation management around downstream dependencies and timeline. Arguably the only true metric is "was anyone surprised at the engineering deliverable in time and quality" IMO.