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Re:A Dyson sphere around a black hole by JoeAltmaier on Thursday August 19, 2021 @08:41AM (#28233080)
Agreed.

But some animals have agriculture (ants?) and some plants exploit metals in the soil (phytomining)! Still, Sapiens are the champs.

Re:A Dyson sphere around a black hole by h0l0cube on Thursday August 19, 2021 @09:21AM (#28233483)
> Agreed.

And it's such a banal obvious claim I'm making, and yet it's being downvoted to oblivion. I can't imagine cane toads doing anything I mentioned.. or even ants having some sort of hegemonic control over the fate of all other species.

Re:A Dyson sphere around a black hole by ganafagol on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:17PM (#28237307)
Maybe it's being downvoted because it is simply wrong?

If tomorrow all ants disappear then most land-oriented ecosystems would just collapse.

We humans are having so egoistically anthropocentrical world views that it's not even funny anymore.

Re:A Dyson sphere around a black hole by h0l0cube on Thursday August 19, 2021 @06:42PM (#28240276)
I'm gobsmacked. Let's take what I consider the most indisputable claim:

> Humans are also exceptional in that they could extinguish themselves, either by choice on their own folly.

Could you imagine ants finding a method to annihilate themselves? I don't claim that animals are unintelligent, but we are unique in our ability to create technology to achieve almost any goal, no matter goal's 'sapience'.

> If tomorrow all ants disappear then most land-oriented ecosystems would just collapse.

I don't dispute this, but it's completely orthogonal to my claim. Humans have disrupted the biosphere in a manner that is unprecedented since when meteor strikes and seismic events were still shaping earth

Re:A Dyson sphere around a black hole by ganafagol on Friday August 20, 2021 @04:19AM (#28243850)
> Could you imagine ants finding a method to annihilate themselves?

It's not very hard for ants to collectively commit suicide.