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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by zepto on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:32PM (#28227987)
All CSAM is produced by child abuse. Everyone who shares 30 images online is a participant in child abuse, even if only by creating a demand for images.

> a crime fighting strategy

Is it a crime fighting strategy? I thought it was just about not making their devices and services into aids for these crimes.

> The cynic in me is also wondering what fraction of people working at places like NCMEC are pedophiles.

Good question. What has that to do with this?

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by atq2119 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:45PM (#28228095)
That's a tedious debate that has been rehashed to death. Finding somebody who has CSAM without being a child abuser doesn't save even a single child. Finding everybody who has CSAM without being a child abuser would likely save some children (drying out commercial operations, perhaps?), but is also basically impossible.

And how many children can really be helped in this way? Surely the majority of child abuse happens independently of the online sharing of CSAM.

And is that really worth the suspension of important civil rights? That is really what this discussion is about. Nobody is arguing against fighting child abuse, the question is about how, and about what means can be justified.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by zepto on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @08:05PM (#28228795)
> Surely the majority of child abuse happens independently of the online sharing of CSAM.

Does it? I see no reason to assume that.

> And is that really worth the suspension of important civil rights?

No civil rights are being suspended. It’s not about that at all.