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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by nine_k on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:51PM (#28227632)
It is indeed meaningfully different: your sensitive data never leaves your device in order to be scanned. There can't be a crack in Apple servers that would expose files of millions of users uploaded for scanning.

Eventually it could lead to Apple platform not having any CSAM content, or any known legally objectionable content, because any sane perpetrator would migrate to other platforms, and less sane, caught.

This, of course, takes the user base to overwhelmingly agree that keeping legally objectionable content is a bad thing and should be exposed to police, and to trust the whatever body which defines the hashes of objectionable content. I'm afraid this order is not as tall as we could imagine.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:31PM (#28227973)
> your sensitive data never leaves your device in order to be scanned. There can't be a crack in Apple servers that would expose files of millions of users uploaded for scanning.

And yet photos that get scanned are still uploaded to iCloud Photos, so they do end up on Apple's servers.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by nine_k on Thursday August 19, 2021 @06:47AM (#28232296)
You can disable iCloud backup.

Doing so right while activating a new iDevice is the way to prevent its private keys from ending up in iCloud, and so preventing Apple, or law enforcement, or some malicious hackers from cracking into your device.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by GeekyBear on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:35PM (#28228011)
Photos that users choose to upload to iCloud Photos do indeed get uploaded to iCloud Photos?

I'm failing to see the issue.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:50PM (#28228133)
I think you might be tilting at windmills here. The issue is that the post I'm replying to claims that data never ends up on Apple's servers even though it does. Thanks for confirming that it does, though.
Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by GeekyBear on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @09:59PM (#28229492)
Am I supposed to be shocked that photos the user uploads to iCloud are on iCloud?

The results of the scan looking for kiddie porn cannot be read by Apple until the device finds 30 examples of photos that match known kiddie porn, whereupon Apple gets the decryption key so they can see which images on their server need review, and a human review is triggered to make sure there haven't been 30 false positives.

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:35PM (#28229719)
> Am I supposed to be shocked that photos the user uploads to iCloud are on iCloud?

I implore you to read the comment I originally replied in order to understand the context of my replies. Personally, I don't care what you're shocked about or not, as my OP wasn't directed at you at all.