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Re:Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to? by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:54AM (#28223050)
> Apple won't leave even the russian market in case the government demands to expand capabilities of the system. And they will never leave chinese market.

Who will? Google? Microsoft? HP? Dell? Huawei or Xiaomi or Lenovo (lol jk)? Which computer or phone manufacturers or service providers refuse to do business in Russia and China?

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Re:Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to? by pshirshov on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:03PM (#28223183)
JFYI Google left China. Not sure about Russia. Anyway that's not an excuse for implementing such a neat surveillance tool.

Fortunately for now you have some escape hatches.

I believe that it would be a smart move for everyone to stop paying for nooses for their own gallows and start investing into privacy. There are some realistic ways to do it, just buy a damn Fairphone for a no-brainer start.

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Re:Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to? by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:35PM (#28223652)
> JFYI Google left China

I know they did briefly after some attacks, but I also know that they had very little market share to lose at the time and have subsequently worked to get back in. Do you have a good summary of their current position there?

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Re:Ask HN: What Apple alternatives are you switching to? by pshirshov on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:56PM (#28223977)
> Do you have a good summary of their current position there?

Nope, why would I? Also I'm pro-google, just pointed to a fact I know.

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