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Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model by sweetheart on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @10:58AM (#28221942)
Their point is that the attack vector being described isn’t new, as CSAM could already be weaponized against folks, and we never really ever hear if that happening. So the OP is simply saying that perhaps it’s not an issue we need to worry about. I happen to agree with them.
Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model by short_sells_poo on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:10AM (#28222157)
So in your mind, because so far we've seen no evidence that this has been abused, it's nothing to worry about going forward? And that making an existing situation even more widespread is also completely OK?
Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model by sweetheart on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @02:22PM (#28225166)
> So in your mind, because so far we've seen no evidence that this has been abused, it's nothing to worry about going forward?

Yeah, basically. It doesn't seem like people actually use CSAM to screw over innocent folks, so I don't think we need to worry about it. What Apple is doing doesn't really make that any easier, so it's either already a problem, or not a problem.

> And that making an existing situation even more widespread is also completely OK?

I don't know if I'd say any of this is "completely OK", as I don't think I've fully formed my opinion on this whole Apple CSAM debate, but I at least agree with OP that I don't think we need to suddenly worry about people weaponizing CSAM all of a sudden when it's been an option for years now with no real stories of anyone actually being victimized.

Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model by ribosometronome on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:42PM (#28237618)
And if it is a problem, not doing this doesn't resolve the problem.

If it were to become a problem in the future, it could become a problem regardless of whether or not the scanning is done at the time of upload on device or at the time of upload on server.

Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model by colejohnson66 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:57AM (#28223090)
It’s that the situation can’t be a “slippery slope” if there’s no evidence of there being one prior