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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by klipt on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:31PM (#28212530)
> cervical cancer where it seems like most cases are caused by HPV strains

What's funny is the US initially only vaccinated women against HPV because "men can't get cervical cancer". Then it turned out lots of men were getting oral/throat cancers from oral HPV acquired from oral sex. Oops!

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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by inasio on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @02:12PM (#28213032)
The bigger issue was anal cancer among men that have sex with men, if I remember correctly the risk was around 100x than in the general population, and also completely preventable by the HPV vaccine.
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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by lebuffon on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:11PM (#28214310)
I am still wondering how many other cancers are caused by viruses that we have not isolated or maybe choose not to search for because "conventional wisdom"

The trail of bread crumbs seems to be there. - HPV - Hep C - Human T-cell leukemia/lymphoma virus (HTLV)

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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by t-writescode on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:17PM (#28214372)
Source for this, and the amount of time that we were only vaccinating women? If it was just a year or so, that's a very different story from decades.

I recall there being a sudden, loud push 10ish years ago, for everyone to get the HPV vaccine.

There were some anti-vax arguments against it for the same reason as there's resistance to sex ed; but no "men can't get cervical cancer" arguments, that I recall.

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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by klipt on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @05:52PM (#28215284)
As of 2017 WHO was still recommending prioritizing girls under 15 for vaccination: https://www.who.int/immunization/policy/position_papers/pp_h...

> Vaccination of secondary target populations e.g. females aged ≥15 years or males, is only recommended if feasible, affordable, cost-effective and does not divert resources from vaccinating primary target population or from effective cervical cancer screening programmes.

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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by t-writescode on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:15PM (#28215877)
I think the tone I read implied into your post was that it was something malicious or arrogant. "Don't protect the men because they don't need to care about giving it to women", followed by "oh noes, men can get sick too! Better protect them!" rather than a resource allocation problem, as the quote is arguing.
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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by kcarter80 on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:35PM (#28212567)
Source?
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Re:Moderna Is About to Begin Trials for HIV Vaccine by klipt on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:37PM (#28212590)
https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/wh...

> HPV-related throat cancer is on the rise, and the typical patient is a male in his 50s or 60s.

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