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Re:Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta by dTal on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @09:36AM (#28209675)
I fear there is a very common phenomenon nowadays - especially in the world of covid - where the wrong people say something for the wrong reasons, which makes right thinking people automatically dismiss it. It's a trap and we shouldn't fall into it.

You can't say "The spike protein absolutely does not cause damage". That's going too far. Speaking as someone who doesn't pay attention to whatever the conspiracy theory of the day is, I have nevertheless always wondered about the effect of of proteins in the blood whose sole purpose is to breach cell walls. Your comment motivated me to do a quick google. There are in fact many reputable papers hinting at unpredictable spike protein effects. Here's three:

SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Induces Degradation of Junctional Proteins That Maintain Endothelial Barrier Integrity [0]

The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood–brain barrier [1]

SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins disrupt the blood-brain barrier, new research shows [2]

[0] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2021.68778...

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096999612...

[2] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201029141941.h...

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Re:Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta by mikeyjk on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @09:49AM (#28209808)
As someone feeling a bit rough after my first Pfizer dose and generally is a hypochondriac - nooooo
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Re:Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta by dTal on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @11:09AM (#28210715)
Hey man, right here with you feeling rough after jab #2 :) The roughness is your immune system, not the spike protein itself per se, which is why jab #2 makes you feel a lot rougher - your immune system goes ape the second time.

A little perspective - one way or another, we're all going to be exposed to this damn spike protein eventually, and the vaccine is by far the safer way. If it does do something bad, we haven't noticed it yet, which presumably means it can't be that bad. I haven't seen any reports of people getting long covid from a jab.

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