Re:Economic costs of war
by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:58AM
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> I'm not interested in intervening with infantry and all the necessary materiel unless it's to defend ourselves from grave danger.
Grave danger was cited by the President, and concurred in as justifying war by Congress, in both of the long wars commenced under Bush.
> True, but they gave him blanket authorization for use of military force (open ended) rather than a declaration of war)
The Supreme Court has long recognized exercise of Congress’ war powers without magic words as legitimate declarations of war, and also recognized conditional declarations of war (including, again, those without magic words) as declarations of war. Magic words may be relevant to the application of other domestic law (because Congress may have chosen to make them so), but it does not change the fact that any time Congress, with or without magic words, and unconditionally or conditioned on some other fact (including a Presidential determination) “authorizes” war, it is in fact exercising its Constitutional power to declare war. In fact, it first did so in regard to the Congressional authorization for the Quasi-War of 1798-1800, which was the very first Congressional exercise of its power to declare war.
Grave danger was cited by the President, and concurred in as justifying war by Congress, in both of the long wars commenced under Bush.
> True, but they gave him blanket authorization for use of military force (open ended) rather than a declaration of war)
The Supreme Court has long recognized exercise of Congress’ war powers without magic words as legitimate declarations of war, and also recognized conditional declarations of war (including, again, those without magic words) as declarations of war. Magic words may be relevant to the application of other domestic law (because Congress may have chosen to make them so), but it does not change the fact that any time Congress, with or without magic words, and unconditionally or conditioned on some other fact (including a Presidential determination) “authorizes” war, it is in fact exercising its Constitutional power to declare war. In fact, it first did so in regard to the Congressional authorization for the Quasi-War of 1798-1800, which was the very first Congressional exercise of its power to declare war.