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Re:Economic costs of war by ericmay on Monday August 16, 2021 @08:50PM (#28204819)
Riiiight. With all those ports, infrastructure, and nice easy mountain terrain to navigate.

And let’s say China does somehow befriend the Taliban and build all this infrastructure, and import hundreds of thousands of workers that somehow the Taliban doesn’t decide are yet another empire to kick out. What do you think they do with these resources? They make iPhones. That westerners buy.

And again, even if they do somehow make this happen. Why should anybody care? It’s not like the US is losing these resources or something. And why would China, as large of a country as it is, need these resources? Is it even profitable to extract?

I keep seeing this narrative and it seems to me to be hugely superficial at best. China and Russia would probably prefer the U.S. just keep wasting money and attention in Afghanistan.

Re:Economic costs of war by mkhpalm on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:15PM (#28205360)
I think the plan so far is to use it as a land corridor between China Pakistan and/or Iran.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/21/china-taliban-afghanist...

Re:Economic costs of war by smegger001 on Monday August 16, 2021 @09:40PM (#28205122)
why bring in hundreds of thousands of workers when China can pay the Taliban to force the Afgans to do it and just send some engineers and managers
Re:Economic costs of war by ericmay on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:10PM (#28205322)
Wow jeez when you put it that simply of course they’ll just pay local warlords who totally won’t steal money for fake employees, and they’ll totally have these Afghan people who are hard working and really eager for that 9-5 lifestyle to get out of their own village to “mine” for Chinese engineers and managers.

I hate to be flippant here but this really shows a continued western misunderstanding of how people in places like Afghanistan live.

And even if they did all of that, what good is it exactly? Is China out of resources in China and now will build mountain passes and teach Afghanis how to drive trucks and all of that to mine resources? Sure sounds like nation building to me.

And why would the Taliban agree to this anyway? They could just do the mining themselves.

Re:Economic costs of war by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday August 16, 2021 @11:01PM (#28205709)
Eh, China is the new red scare. It is actually twice that since they still have communist in their official name. I jest, but only a little.

I agree with you. It is not a straightforward and foregone conclusion. Taliban has clearly shown that it can play a very long game. That said, so can Chinese.

US can barely handle one news cycle lately.

Re:Economic costs of war by selimthegrim on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:24PM (#28205427)
The copper lode at Mes Aynak monastery complex was probably worked by a bunch of serfs for the benefit of the monks. Plus ça change...
Re:Economic costs of war by greedo on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:06PM (#28205292)
The modus operandi of China is employment for their people. In almost every country they've lent money for infrastructure, they've brought in their own construction people.
Re:Economic costs of war by issa on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:07PM (#28205303)
I think this is the fundamental fallacy in this whole situation. "Taliban" and "Afghans" are not two separate groups.
Re:Economic costs of war by smegger001 on Monday August 16, 2021 @11:33PM (#28205917)
one is a radical armed violent subset of the other.

in the same way that the klu kluk klan are american but America isn't the klan.

Re:Economic costs of war by issa on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:59PM (#28261709)
It is a fraught comparison, but I would like to think that the Taliban has MUCH broader support in Afghanistan than the KKK does in the US.