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Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by S_A_P on Monday August 16, 2021 @04:49PM (#28202768)
Don't feel bad- Im on AT&T and Ive noticed a HUGE uptick in spam sms messages. Pretty sure my number was leaked in some breach.
Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by gruez on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:08PM (#28203012)
>Pretty sure my number was leaked in some breach.

Why do spammers need leaked phone numbers? Can't they just call/message every number?

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by pininja on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:23PM (#28203168)
Calling, while cheap, isn’t free or infinitely fast. They’d likely pay for knowing “active” or “lucrative” numbers.

Jim Browning videos are a fantastic resource to learn more about the inner workings of scams https://youtube.com/c/JimBrowning

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by yuy910616 on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:30PM (#28203229)
Calling isn't zero cost, and that spammer time isn't zero cost, so in this case, there is a incentive from the spammer to weed out people who costs the most.

So isn't the popular idea that you should NOT answer spam calls wrong? Logically, you should answer every spam call and try to get them to stay on the line for as long as possible, therefore maximizing their cost.

This is assuming they have some CMS software on the backend that allows them to categorize numbers.

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by gruez on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:34PM (#28203260)
>Logically, you should answer every spam call and try to get them to stay on the line for as long as possible, therefore maximizing their cost.

You also have to factor in your costs as well. I checked a random VOIP service and they charge a penny per minute, or $0.60 per hour. The federal minimum wage is an order of magnitude higher at $7.25/hour. Therefore it's more expensive for you to stay on the line to mess with them.

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by Nzen on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:36PM (#28203274)
There are systems to waste telemarketer time, ex lenny troll [0] (which acts like a senile person). While I used to answer in bad faith, I stopped given the realization that I am hurting people of lower economic standing more than the company that employs them.

[0] https://lennytroll.com/about.php

On the tangential topic of war dialing (calling every number as an exploration) I recommend checking this discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27602383

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by easrng on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:19PM (#28203129)
They can and do, but it's cheaper if they have a list so they can just text numbers they know get SMS.
Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by judge2020 on Monday August 16, 2021 @04:53PM (#28202818)
For what it's worth I've continued to report these to both AT&T[0] and Safe Browsing[1].

0: https://www.att.com/support/article/my-account/KM1051831/#:~....

1: https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_general/

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by dwighttk on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:25PM (#28203185)
I kinda wish Apple would let me mark voicemail as spam. They wouldn’t even really need to do anything with that info. Just delete the voicemail and maybe keep track of the number and if I mark the same number three times then block it.

I know I can block a caller, but I don’t know enough about how these scams work to know if blocking a number slows them down at all.

I just don’t let my phone ring ever so I don’t deal with too much of the spam. Every once in a while I open the phone app and see I have like 15 new voicemails. I’m guessing I do that once a month so they are just calling every other day.

Re:T-Mobile Confirms It Was Hacked by bbarnett on Monday August 16, 2021 @05:12PM (#28203047)
Or leaked once, when your phone number appeared on a phone, with an evil app installed.