Maybe in the future people will realize that it's a mistake to market your company as being unequivocally on the side of privacy. Nothing was ever private at the point where cloud companies are forced to comply with the government to some extent or face extinction through legal pressure.

It isn't like the ultimate goal of protecting children isn't worth fighting for, and the ICMEC considers half the countries in the world having no laws against CSAM to be "simply unacceptable." But companies that insist that everything they host can remain private to everyone are lying to their users, and will have to align their marketing claims with the reality of the law, or this kind of backlash will result.

But in general, there are a lot of other descriptors besides "private" that are nothing more than baseless Corporate Memphis copy.

The reason they pushed privacy was because of the media attention that Androids bad privacy got. Please don't tell me you believe privacy was at the usual consumers mind when they bought their devices...this is ridiculous or you don't meet many normal users. It's marketing. They'll something new. You can fit everything in front of a white background...

From https://www.sellcell.com/blog/apple-privacy-survey/

>A majority (72%) of iPhone & iPad users are aware of new privacy changes in recent software updates. When asked how well they understand Apple’s new privacy policies, these were the responses: Extremely well (13%), Very well (29%), Moderately well (21%), Slightly well (9%), and Not well at all (28%). Two in three (65%) users are “extremely” or “very” concerned about their activities being tracked as they use certain websites and apps, while only 14% said they were not at all concerned.

And from https://www.androidauthority.com/android-app-tracking-transp...

>You told us: You really want an Apple-like anti-app tracking feature on Android... Over 30,000 people voted in favor of an App Tracking Transparency feature on Android.

People are becoming extremely conscious of online (and on-phone) privacy issues. Where have you been?

Your statement "don't tell me you believe privacy was at the usual consumers mind when they bought their devices... this is ridiculous or you don't meet many normal users." is itself, ridiculous.

Besides the obvious and continuos popularity of apps with bad reputation in the privacy department, those surveys have all been made after the campaign was launched. The only thing it does is to show that the advertising message has been delivered. Nothing else.

So, the marketing is working and people are increasingly aware of privacy issues? In that case, would you say this statement:

>don't tell me you believe privacy was at the usual consumers mind when they bought their devices... this is ridiculous or you don't meet many normal users.

Is true or false? Because you seem to be contradicting yourself. Are people aware of privacy or not? Is the marketing working or not?

I suspect you were trying to say that people weren't aware previously. Is that correct? Because I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

You just quote some survey stats. They are bullshit. What people want and what they say they want are two entirely different things.

Small example: I run a small app. The number of GDPR-related requests is zero. The number of emails like "can my deleted account and deleted data still be recovered?" is like 1 per month or so.

WhatsApp is also a good counter example. People want privacy, but what they want more is utility and network effects. Most people I know didn’t abandon WhatsApp despite numerous privacy mishaps and I think the same will happen here with Apple. This will blow over – unfortunately.

People don't care about privacy, got it. No one is quitting Facebook, no one is de-Googling their lives, installing privacy extensions/apps and making purchases based on privacy issues.

The worlds largest online companies increasingly making privacy a priority in their marketing are all wrong. Got it.

>Most people I know didn’t abandon WhatsApp despite numerous privacy mishaps

I never said privacy was the top issue, trumping all else. You're absolutely correct that other issues like convenience and network effects are important.