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Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by smnrchrds on Friday August 13, 2021 @05:25PM (#28174743)
I don't think that was confusion either, because there were discussion and articles on how a hash collision is possible in the scenario you mention due to the way perceptual hashes work.
Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by slg on Friday August 13, 2021 @05:28PM (#28174778)
They have said that the system won't be triggered on a single image. You would need to have multiple photos on your phone experience this hash collision which drops the odds of false positives considerably.

EDIT: It has now come out that you need to trigger the system 30 times before Apple acts on it. I can't imagine the odds for someone to have 30 hash collisions.

Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by smnrchrds on Friday August 13, 2021 @05:32PM (#28174819)
So they understand that their system is very susceptible to false positives, but they are saying their clients shouldn't worry because the black box hash gets compared with a black box inauditable threshold, both of which solely determined by Apple. I don't think the reaction was due to any confusion. People understood what Apple was trying to do and realized how much it sucked from a technical perspective.
Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by slg on Friday August 13, 2021 @06:17PM (#28175349)
Where did "very susceptible to false positives" come from? If the odds of a collision are one in a million that is troublesome if they only need one match. If they ignore anyone that has less than 3 matches, we don't really have to worry about false positives. People who have CSAM generally don't have only 1 or 2 images.
Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by JCharante on Friday August 13, 2021 @09:30PM (#28176943)
So why 30 matches before they do something? Why not 100? Why not 5?
Re:Apple Regrets Confusion over 'iPhone Scanning' by smnrchrds on Friday August 13, 2021 @09:37PM (#28176988)
I assume because they know the system is so false-positive-prone that even 29 false matches is a regular occurrence not worthy of wasting an employee's time to look at.