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Re:WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first... by s1artibartfast on Friday August 13, 2021 @02:46PM (#28172753)
>Imagine it was a leak. Dozens or hundreds of people -- researchers with PhDs and international cred and travel ability -- would have had to be knowledgeable about the research and in on the coverup.

I don't see why this would be the case. It could be a lab leak with nobody at the being aware or having evidence. Why must people be in on a secret coverup?

Many activities that make evaluating the lab leak hypothesis difficult were done in the open: Destruction of early virus samples and deletion of Gene sequencing from public databases.

>Add to that the fact that covid is a close cousin of already-known endemic viruses and that nothing about it looks engineered at all, and... this is still just a natural virus, sorry.

The virus does not need to have been engineered to have leaked from a lab. Natural viruses can and do leak from labs as well.

Re:WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first... by nickff on Friday August 13, 2021 @02:56PM (#28172912)
>"Why must people be in on a secret coverup?"

I hadn't considered this before, but you're right that most of the people dismissing the 'lab leak' theory seem to believe that their intellectual opponents are proposing that a 'premeditated conspiracy' took place.

In any case, if I were a PRoC official, I would try to reduce the chance of any (direct or circumstantial) evidence of a lab leak came to light. That said, even suppression of circumstantial evidence is not necessarily evidence of either a lab leak or pre-meditated conspiracy.

Re:WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first... by echelon on Friday August 13, 2021 @03:47PM (#28173668)
"research accident" is a better term than "lab leak".
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Re:WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first... by fouric on Friday August 13, 2021 @03:20PM (#28173284)
> To be fair, a lot of you nuts

Please don't resort to personal insults on HN. It's a violation of the guidelines[1] and makes for poor and uninteresting discussion.

Instead...

> It's extremely hard to figure out who we're talking to.

...don't resort to personal attacks, and assess the argument that the individual is making, without setting up a straw-man argument. If you're unclear what their assumptions are, then ask.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first... by nickff on Friday August 13, 2021 @03:01PM (#28173002)
>"To be fair, a lot of you nuts are absolutely alleging "premeditated conspiracy", or even loopier notions like bioweapon engineering. "

Why are you insulting me? I honestly don't know where this virus came from, and am more interested in what the polarized discourse says about our current state of affairs.