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Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by unityByFreedom on Friday August 13, 2021 @12:22AM (#28165424)
> Apple has now demonstrated that it is technically feasible to overcome this challenge by doing things "pre-encryption" on the user's device.

> From a legal stand point, they are now screwed, because now they _must_ do it.

That's not the right takeaway. They're only required to turn over data to which they have access. If they continue writing software that makes it so they don't have access to the data, then they do not need to turn it over because they can't. The fact that you can write software to store or transmit unencrypted data is irrelevant.

Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by mrweasel on Friday August 13, 2021 @04:11AM (#28166648)
Because Apple write the software, there will never be a time where they do not at some point have access to the data.
Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by noduerme on Friday August 13, 2021 @04:32AM (#28166761)
Right, but there is a big difference between them having the software in place already to steal files off a phone for a government, versus a government telling them "you must deploy this new software." In the past Apple has said no to writing any new spyware for the government. They would not be able to say no very easily if the software is already on the devices.
Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by shuckles on Friday August 13, 2021 @11:28AM (#28170122)
Apple has the software to “steal files off a phone” through iCloud Backup. Whether they do this for governments is a policy matter.
Re:Apple's child protection features spark concern within it... by unityByFreedom on Friday August 13, 2021 @11:14PM (#28177514)
That's on their servers, not your device. The difference is the source of people's outrage.