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Re:How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says by kaczordon on Thursday August 12, 2021 @11:45PM (#28165174)
Looks like against delta the vaccines could have as low as 39% efficacy against preventing symptomatic COVID.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-v...

Re:How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says by otherme123 on Friday August 13, 2021 @02:12AM (#28165982)
We keep using percentages as if they had a true meaning. All the values that keep flying around cannot be compared, as they all measure slightly different things.

That 39% number (protection against symptoms) wasn't checked at the trials, or at least wasn't reported. In that same article, they state that protection against being hospitalized/ICUed is still around 90%, which are the same values we heard before. Guess that doesn't sell clicks.

Re:How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says by kaczordon on Friday August 13, 2021 @10:42AM (#28169489)
It absolutely was reported and tested for, please don’t spread misinformation.
Re:How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says by otherme123 on Friday August 13, 2021 @05:23PM (#28174724)
If that is the case, it has absolutely nothing to do with the reported "around 90% effectivity" that was in the headlines for the four main vaccines.

Saying that delta diminishes the effectivity from over 90% to 39% is spreading misinformation. Implying it, as the above linked article does, is spreading misinformation, knowing that lots of people doesn't read beyond the headline. Vaccines are still more than 90% effective against delta variant, or any other variant so far.

The 39% above only means that vaccinated people has "only" that protection against being infected (that is, being positive on a PCR test). Even if you are asymtomatic you are counted as infected, thus the vaccine alegedly didn't protect you. But vaccinated people still has around 90% protection against being hospitalized, even in delta variant environments.

The only conclusion we can get is: herd immunity is still far. Get vaxxed ASAP, because this thing will keep spreading.

Re:How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says by kaczordon on Friday August 13, 2021 @06:36PM (#28175604)
Even if you are asymtomatic you are counted as infected

Incorrect the vaccine trials only tested for symptomatic COVID not asymptomatic, so your assertion here is wrong. The 39% number is for symptomatic COVID only.

Also if you read my original comment you’ll see I only refer to symptomatic COVID and not to death or hospitalizations, perhaps you should read more closely before blindly accusing me of being misleading.