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Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time' by alkonaut on Thursday August 12, 2021 @06:13AM (#28154345)
How can it be so expansive?

Norging stands out in the stats.

Is this because people who use electric heating have old direct electric radiators? Don’t most homes in Spain or Italy these days have AC? Those are heat pumps so should be able to provide (some) heat in winter with reasonable efficiency.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-price...

Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time' by spaniard89277 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:29AM (#28154910)
You're looking at the pool prices. That accounts only for 20-30% of the final bill people has to pay. The rest is taxes (and even taxes over taxes) and regulated costs, which by the way are quite opaque, despite they make some cosmetic effort of transparency.

The rationale, they say, is that the spanish grid is "solid" and we rarely have problems, which is true but I don't know to what extent this explains the prices, or if cheaper countries do really have much more problems than us, which I highly doubt.

Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time' by alkonaut on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:36AM (#28154964)
What are some examples of final cost including taxes for customers? I pay 0.1-0.2€ per kWh after massive taxes
Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time' by michieldotv on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:30AM (#28155388)

                 Electricity price (A)
  +      Distribution network fees (B1)
  +      Transmission network fees (B2)
  +    Excise taxes on electricity (C)
  ────────────────────────────────
                          Subtotal 
  +                        21% VAT (D)
  ────────────────────────────────
         Electricity price on bill

Depending on the circumstances, (A) is inevitably dwarfed by (B), (C) and (D).

It sums up to somewhere between €0.23 and €0.28 per kWh for a cheap energy provider.

Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time' by fogihujy on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:37AM (#28155457)
From my last bill (Finland):

Electricity: 0.053 €/kWh Transfer fee: 0.043 €/kWh Electricity tax: 0.028 €/kWh VAT: 0.023 €/kWh

So, about 0.146€ per kWh. The transfer fee is to the local utility company, and we can't avoid that, nor the taxes.

We're paying extra for having power generated by solar/wind only, but the cost of the electricity is only about 1/3 of the actual price.