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Re:Default disappearing messages by Vinnl on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @04:57AM (#28139675)
Defaults are set on your phone I think, so unless your phone is compromised (in which case the default setting for disappearing messages really isn't the thing you should be worrying about), it doesn't really provide a signal in large-scale blanket surveillance.
Re:Default disappearing messages by mike_hock on Thursday August 12, 2021 @04:54AM (#28153784)
If every phone (or most phones) collect all messages, because it's the default, only either phone of the conversing parties needs to be eventually compromised to leak the entire conversation, even years later.
Re:Default disappearing messages by Vinnl on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:37AM (#28154972)
Sure, and if everybody uses WhatsApp and stores all messages on their phones, the entire conversation can eventually be leaked as well. If you don't want conversations to be stored, you can choose not to store them just like you can choose to use Signal. I don't see the problem here.
Re:Default disappearing messages by mike_hock on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:46AM (#28156977)
Your peer will likely still store the conversation if it is opt-out
Re:Default disappearing messages by Vinnl on Thursday August 12, 2021 @12:14PM (#28158102)
If you turn on disappearing messages, their Signal client will delete the messages unless they turn it off again. And of course they'll always be able to take a screenshot of your message before it disappears - it does not work if your conversation partner is your adversary. But if you care about messages disappearing and your partner doesn't mind, you can set them to disappear and they will disappear from both your devices.
Re:Default disappearing messages by wolverine876 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:36PM (#28149582)
> Defaults are set on your phone I think

Yes, the messages are only on your phone; Signal doesn't have them.