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Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by andrekandre on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:18PM (#28135414)
open source and free (as in beer) software are orthoginal/unrelated concepts

you can have for-pay open source apps, no problem

Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by tayistay on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:22PM (#28135467)
Sure, you can have a for-pay open source app, but if it's a consumer product (as opposed to, say, some B2B thing with special licensing), then it isn't going anywhere as a business. Many people will just download the code and compile it instead of paying you (or find someone else who packaged it up). That's why open source has been more successful with software-as-service.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by andrekandre on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:24PM (#28135481)

  > but if it's a consumer product...then it isn't going anywhere as a business
why?
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by EduardoBautista on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @11:17PM (#28137546)
Do you have an example of a successful open source consumer product business?
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by Quot on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @01:22AM (#28138320)
Just off the top of my head,

Aseprite: https://github.com/aseprite/aseprite Onivim: https://v2.onivim.io/ Ardour: https://ardour.org/

Of course, I don't know how successful each of those projects are, but they seem to be successful enough to continue development.

Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by EduardoBautista on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @01:47PM (#28145246)
First one is not an open source and the other two don't appear to be businesses.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by NoThisIsMe on Thursday August 12, 2021 @12:52AM (#28152102)
ONLYOFFICE (not yelling, that's how they stylize it) and Nextcloud
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by pdanpdan on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @01:11AM (#28138259)
PostgreSQL?
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by EduardoBautista on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @01:47PM (#28145249)
It's not a consumer product.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by DanRabbit on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @01:58AM (#28138552)
I’ve been selling open source software as my full time job for like 7 years now
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by zaptheimpaler on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:43PM (#28135688)
??? Maybe if your userbase is tiny. As soon as it reaches even a 100-200 people someone will compile the source and distribute it for free or copy and resell it cheaper. they sure as heck aren’t orthogonal concepts in practice.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by andrekandre on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @08:06AM (#28140982)
maybe im way out there but...

if you live/sell in a country that respects software copyright/license, then you can sue them or get a cease and desist for using it against your license (say prohibiting commercial derivative or violating your copyright without authorization)

and your software, if popular or lucrative, its going to get ripped off anyways like in the real app store (just look at the many clones of many apps), or just plain pirated like the myriad apps (photoshop, word et all) have since basically forever

am i way off-base?

Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by reedciccio on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @10:11AM (#28142197)
> if you live/sell in a country that respects software copyright/license, then you can sue them or get a cease and desist for using it against your license (say prohibiting commercial derivative or violating your copyright without authorization)

Prohibition of derivative makes your software not open source

But you can use trademark, instead of copyright to prevent someone else to sell copies of your app. Sort of what Red hat does but that doesn't prevent clones with a different name to pop up.

Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by andrekandre on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @06:03PM (#28148383)

  > Prohibition of derivative makes your software not open source
hmmm right, maybe my understanding was a little different, i was assuming "if you pay me, ill give you the source if you ask for it" would make it "open source" but that would be incorrect ...