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Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by kall on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:08PM (#28134561)
For me macOS design peaked when they moved from the super readable Lucida Grande to Helvetica Neue because it looked hot on retina displays. I'm not sure which version that was exactly.

Purely from a visual standpoint I like the Big Sur redesign way more than I expected. It looks like it was made for dark mode, unlike previous versions where dark mode was kind of an add on. The whole material/translucency thing is really coming together. Not so happy about the non-visual aspects though, like all the unlabeled, barely distinct line icons.

Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by Normille on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:36PM (#28134953)
The trouble with Lucida Grande was that it didn't have an Italic variant. Which was a bit of a glaring oversight for a default font
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by kall on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:48PM (#28135098)
Ha, I had no idea. That's kind of a problem, yeah. They REALLY fixed that with San Francisco which has, by my count, a crazy 18 cuts across 8 variants, counting only generic sans serifs.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:35PM (#28135603)
Eh, in a UI font though? I appreciate the lack of italics in the UI of my system (which is running Mavericks, so has Lucida Grande), it keeps the menus clean and there are better ways to add emphasis where truly needed.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by Normille on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @04:46AM (#28139584)
Not necessarily in the UI. But, as the default font, it was the one that a lot of apps would er... 'default' to. So, if you were writing a text document in such an app and then went to make some text italic you'd realise it wasn't available so would have to change fronts.... which could then affect the layout, no. of pages required etc.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @08:14AM (#28141045)
I'm pretty sure those apps were breaking Apple's design guidelines, though.
Re:Elementary OS 6 Odin by chipotle_coyote on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @08:08PM (#28136383)
> Purely from a visual standpoint I like the Big Sur redesign way more than I expected. It looks like it was made for dark mode, unlike previous versions where dark mode was kind of an add on. The whole material/translucency thing is really coming together.

Yeah, I actually like Big Sur more than I expected to, and it's the first version of macOS with a dark mode that I actually stuck with. Most of my quibbles stem from choosing minimalism over discoverability, e.g., hiding the document proxy icon, making all the keyboard shortcuts in menus grey because somebody clearly decided that looked prettier and more subtle rather, etc. But in practice, all the shirt-rending over how the excessive transparency would make everything unreadable and illegible just hasn't matched my experience.