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Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by eru on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:49AM (#28126865)
As if the farmland would just go away, if the subsidies would go away?

> The staple native grain of Europe is wheat, rice in Asia, and corn in the Americas.

Not sure what you mean by native? The predecessor of wheat was native to some parts of the Middle East, but until recently you couldn't even grow that stuff well in eg most parts of Germany. (Hence Germany's enduring love affair with rye bread.)

Rice only grows in some parts of Asia. (Eg Northern China relies on other grains.)

All those crops are human interventions in their wide spread, they aren't native to entire continents.

Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by wil421 on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:36AM (#28128655)
Maybe Germany had an issue but Wikipedia says:

> In the late Roman Empire in Europe the most important crops were bread wheat in Italy and barley in northern Europe and the Balkans. Near the Mediterranean Sea viticulture and olives were important. Rye and oats were only slowly becoming major crops.[1]

The article does mention Rye was important and the most common crop in the Northernmost regions and in France. Due to its winter tolerance.

See Crops[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Middle_Ag...

Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by eru on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:39AM (#28128693)
You can grow wheat in Germany, but it's not as good for wheat as Italy.

So eg you can't really economically grow the durum wheat you need for (non-egg) pasta.

Yes, barley and rye grow just fine. Potatoes, too. But they are a New World import. Germans love potatoes. (Just like Chinese cuisine loves peanuts. Another New World import.)

And, of course, Germany has different regions. Some parts are warm enough for wine, others not so much.

Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by RobertoG on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:37AM (#28128668)
>>"until recently you couldn't even grow that stuff well in eg most parts of Germany"

He said Europe, not Germany specifically.

https://www.world-foodhistory.com/2018/10/history-of-wheat-i...

Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by eru on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @12:23PM (#28144058)
Compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#Origin_and_history for going back even further.

> He said Europe, not Germany specifically.

My point was that continents are not a naturally unit here. (Especially since Europe isn't even a proper continent.)

Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by X6S1x6Okd1st on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:20AM (#28128455)
Land isn't the only part of the equation.
Re:Mexico is phasing out imports of glyphosate and GMO corn by eru on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:36AM (#28128652)
Yes. But without corn subsidies they would just use the farmland to grow something else.