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Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by pjc50 on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:18AM (#28125971)
> Since everyone was the same ethnicity, you can't blame 'systematic x'. It was all equal.

This is certainly an advantage that Albania had over Alabama. There are still people alive who remember the school system having to be desegregated under armed guard. The struggle continues: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/1...

Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by ardit33 on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:30AM (#28126057)
yeah, but you are missing the point completely. I gave you a real life example: Even if everyone is equal, and has the same conditions, some people are just born smarter than others, and will put more effort and do better.

Equality of conditions is a good thing to ask for, equality of outcome is stupid, as even in a murderous communist regime, was impossible to achieve as it goes against basic human nature.

That's why event though I am liberal/democrat, I don't like the today's 'progressives', as they seem completely ignorant of human nature, and have no knowledge of the history of countries that went through socialism/communism, and yet want to repeat the same destructive mistakes by trying to achieve 'equality of outcome', which is impossible.

Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by lordnacho on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:30AM (#28126759)
It seems unlikely that there's just a smart/dumb setting inside of each kid.

Material conditions being equal don't mean that everything is equal. Some people have parents who value certain things and push their kids. Other people have some anxieties to get over before they can perform. Some people like being ahead of the class and put in effort to stay there.

Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by exporectomy on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @07:13AM (#28127346)
But mainly, some kids are born smarter and some "dumber" and there's nothing you can do to change the dumb ones to smart.
Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by lordnacho on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @07:24AM (#28127447)
It's a deep conversation but I reckon it's more like weightlifting.

Some people are naturally stronger and some are weaker. But if you train, you will be stronger than you were, regardless.

You might not become world champion with weak genes, but you'll be stronger than everyone who doesn't train.

Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by FredPret on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @07:45AM (#28127625)
> It seems unlikely that there's just a smart/dumb setting inside of each kid.

DNA

Re:American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math'... by robbiep on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @09:04AM (#28128295)
Is your argument that everyone has the same capability?