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Re:Apple’s Mistake by bigiain on Monday August 09, 2021 @08:55PM (#28124124)
> NOTE: this is a USA-centric viewpoint

Those are USA-centric examples.

I'm sure the viewpoint is just as valid across five eyes and even worse in places like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, China et al.

I'm from Australia, allegedly a 1st world democracy - and secret wiretaps, secret evidence (and even secret trials!), overseas torture facilities, imprisonment without charges - are all public policy, covered my the media, and enshrined in laws passes by both of the two-party political system.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by torified on Monday August 09, 2021 @11:55PM (#28125004)
>Australia

Don't forget raiding journalists homes and public broadcasters (using illegal warrants!) for reporting on proposed secret spying and hacking laws.

Nice "democracy".

Re:Apple’s Mistake by thewileyone on Thursday August 12, 2021 @05:50AM (#28154181)
I watched "Secret City" and was aghast at the secret trials, evidence, etc. Is all that really happening today in Australia?
Re:Apple’s Mistake by XorNot on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:45AM (#28125778)
"Covered by the media" is a stretch: Murdoch has been hard at work ignoring all of it.