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Re:Apple’s Mistake by coldtea on Monday August 09, 2021 @08:43PM (#28124047)
>Thus far, tech companies like Google and AOL have gone out of their way to testify that there is no coercion (I haven't found a case involving Apple). If there were coercion it would be a shocking conspiracy.

Isn't Google a company with billion dollar government contracts? No coercion required...

Re:Apple’s Mistake by nullc on Monday August 09, 2021 @09:11PM (#28124214)
If Google is being forced to search their users private data for fear of losing government contracts then they've purjured themselves in court by claiming otherwise.

If that were the case and Google honestly testified that they performed the searches based on the belief that the government would withhold business from them it is likely that the warrantless searches would be disallowed. Courts have found that even covert encouragement can apply. What matters is that the if it's functionally the government's choice if the searching does or doesn't happen, then its subject to the fourth amendment.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by coldtea on Monday August 09, 2021 @09:17PM (#28124244)
>If Google is being forced to search their users private data for fear of losing government contracts then they've purjured themselves in court by claiming otherwise.

Doesn't need to be fear. Doesn't even need anybody to insinuate something threatening.

The conflict of interest is enough, to willingly do anything you're asked and play the good boy out of greed - to keep/get more contracts.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by nl on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:47AM (#28125789)
This seems to imply "the government" is some single minded entity. Anyone who has had to deal with "the government" knows that it is rare that the same department can stick to a purchasing strategy.