Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by jandrewrogers on Monday August 09, 2021 @06:17PM (#28123007)

I don’t know where you are getting data for ruminants in North America. Historical estimates for bison are 60 million prior to systematic extermination, at least 10 million for elk, 50-100 million for deer, plus pronghorn, moose, etc in the many millions each.

Bison may not rebound very quickly but something needs to fill the bison niche in the ecosystem. It is well-understood that several other native species undergo population declines and reducing biodiversity when beef herds are moved out of a region long-term. Cattle and bison are very substitutable for this purpose (and are related species). Deer fill in much faster than most other species of ruminants in North America, usually detrimentally.

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Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by GVIrish on Monday August 09, 2021 @08:55PM (#28124123)

I was going off my memory of Bison populations, was way off there, thanks for the correction.

Either way, we'd still be better off if we dramatically reduced cattle farming and restored some or all of that habitat, particularly in South America.

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