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Re:Apple’s Mistake by shuckles on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:16PM (#28119517)
Google could’ve announced the same solution for Google Photos as a 3rd party app. I don’t understand what privileged position Apple as OS maker has used to build this solution. It’s a feature of their Photos application when used with their cloud photo service.
Re:Apple’s Mistake by danudey on Monday August 09, 2021 @02:45PM (#28120643)
It's more accurate to think of it as a feature of the iCloud Photos client software (which is built into the OS). If you don't use iCloud Photos, you don't use the client software, so nothing changes.
Re:Apple’s Mistake by BiteCode_dev on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:19PM (#28119552)
To be installed by default and not removable on one of the most used devices in the world.
Re:Apple’s Mistake by shuckles on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:31PM (#28119684)
It’s a pretty weak argument to say that a clearly communicated change in behavior of a single application compromises trust in the entire operating system. You’d basically need to argue that Apple should not be allowed to install any default applications or services.

The Photos application can’t be removed, but this behavior can be turned off.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by BiteCode_dev on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:34PM (#28119726)
It does because they control the entire os, ecosystem, now and in the future, and have demonstrated with PRISM and this they don't play for our team.
Re:Apple’s Mistake by vb6sp6 on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:45PM (#28119884)
> they don't play for our team

I'm no apple apologist but apple must follow the laws of the countries they operate in. They can't advocate for us because we are not the ones setting the rules.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by BiteCode_dev on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:49PM (#28119928)
Sure. If the law tell them to locate all gays so that they can be jailed in the emirates, would you agree with that ?

I could do worse, but Godwin called.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by vb6sp6 on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:56PM (#28120022)
Of course not. I even said "i am not an apple apologist" so these lame "gotcha" questions are kinda silly
Re:Apple’s Mistake by BiteCode_dev on Monday August 09, 2021 @02:10PM (#28120167)
The lame gotcha question is to underline than for many, the immorality of the choice they make override the legality of it.

But the previous comment was more fun.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by vb6sp6 on Monday August 09, 2021 @02:12PM (#28120195)
I think the bar is a little higher here on HN. save it for facebook
Re:Apple’s Mistake by threeseed on Monday August 09, 2021 @04:44PM (#28122119)
You can remove the Photos app and disable iCloud Photos.

At no point are you forced to use either.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by exhilaration on Monday August 09, 2021 @06:24PM (#28123065)
Are you suggesting that people who want to opt out of this should stop taking photos on their iPhones?
Re:Apple’s Mistake by simondotau on Monday August 09, 2021 @09:29PM (#28124297)
The way to opt out of CSAM scanning on an iPhone is identical to opting out of it on Android: disable the platform's cloud service to synchronise your photo galleries.
Re:Apple’s Mistake by threeseed on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:36AM (#28126443)
You can take photos on your phone without using the Photos app.

You can use Photos without using iCloud.

Re:Apple’s Mistake by simondotau on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:24AM (#28155337)
And you can use iCloud without using iCloud Photo Library.