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Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by triceratops on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:20AM (#28117172)
> China's ratcheting up pollution knowing full-well the consequences

That if they didn't their population would remain poor, and lacking access to healthcare, food, and water? And in an even worse situation when climate change finally hit? Are you suggesting that if China hadn't concentrated on development, the developed countries would be currently falling over themselves to fix the problem?

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by samatman on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:40AM (#28117481)
China both leads the world in solar panel manufacture, and in new coal plants.

That's a choice. No one is forcing their hand here. If it were the 90s I would have to agree with you, but, it isn't.

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by triceratops on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:58AM (#28117749)
You're suggesting they should go 100% solar for all new energy needs?

I assume that they're taking an approach of using renewable energy where possible and fossil fuels when that's not enough.

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by AstralStorm on Monday August 09, 2021 @11:07AM (#28117857)
My recommendation which China is already seems to be taking is to go for nuclear power and solar in that order. Maybe add some hydropower to the mix but they have a plenty of it.

The chief problem is that they're not ramping up nuclear quickly enough, and it's hard to deploy in desert west of the country. And thanks to our persistent self-sabotage there's civil unrest related to these power plants.

The nuclear is to be used to ramp production of solar PV and batteries cleanly, then decommissioned. Timeframe would be 25 years.

Decommissioning of current old reactors is a problem already but there's really no alternative - ramping solar PV with standard energy sources would be bad. A lot of reactors are expected to shut down by 2025...

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by FooBarWidget on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:34PM (#28119716)
They are ramping up nuclear but it's not exactly easy. See this expert's twitter thread on what hurdles they're facing: https://twitter.com/pretentiouswhat/status/12939610958922792...
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Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by triceratops on Monday August 09, 2021 @10:56AM (#28117716)
I'm not disputing the CCP's past and present crimes. But I'm not sure what that has to do with climate change.
Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by throwaway894345 on Monday August 09, 2021 @11:13AM (#28117934)
You framed Chinese development as compassion for Chinese citizens. I pointed out that the Chinese government doesn't much care about the welfare of its citizens.
Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by triceratops on Monday August 09, 2021 @11:16AM (#28117973)
I don't think I said "compassion" anywhere. But today they do obviously care about having an economically strong nation with a good standard of living. It's what will help keep them in power.
Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by throwaway894345 on Monday August 09, 2021 @11:59AM (#28118503)
Yes, I was paraphrasing, but the fact remains.

> But today

We're not talking about today, we're not just talking about the last ~50+ years. And moreover, even today they are pretty happy infringing on many other rights of their citizens.