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Re:The smart home is flailing as a concept by taeric on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:16PM (#28094353)
Strictly, I want those without the wifi. :D

That said, they do fit my bill really well and I'm almost certainly going to switch to them eventually.

Re:The smart home is flailing as a concept by beerandt on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:44PM (#28094525)
They don't have wifi, unless you mean the z-wave protocol, which is a separate wireless protocol.

You can add a zwave controller that translates ip commands from a home server to zwave commands, but it can be wired or wifi (or usb).

You can also directly program zwave "scenes", which work directly between the z wave devices without needing a controller. Like a direct remote control.

Re:The smart home is flailing as a concept by taeric on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:47PM (#28094554)
I did mean z-wave. I am not sure of what acronym to call that by. I guess I could have just said radio/wireless?

Edit: Regardless of what I meant, I think you proved I should look more into these. Thanks!

Re:The smart home is flailing as a concept by beerandt on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:59PM (#28094660)
It's proprietary wireless, usually people just say zwave.

My point was that it's not like most iot devices that try to find an open internet connection to phone home. They're 100% as isolated as you want them to be.

Re:The smart home is flailing as a concept by yurishimo on Friday August 06, 2021 @09:55PM (#28094978)
Check out Inovelli[0]. They are the darling child of the Home Automation subreddit. I have a few of the last generation switches and they do perform well and have a great feature set for the price.

0: https://inovelli.com/