This seems fatalist and goes against what we have learned from internet society: making a ruckus is exactly how you sway large companies.

I'm with you bud. Fatalism is how bad things survive.

"Oh, nothing will happen to this [corrupt politician|naughty rich guy|corporation doing a thing I don't like], because they're all [bad thing]. It's all over already." :facepalm:

(Also, I couldn't read the original article because my work thinks it's spreading malware or something so I'm really only referring to the fatalism thing here, not Apple.)

There can always be leaks, anonymous sources that confirm something is still ongoing, despite what was publicly announced. Brand image is important.

Are you sure?

Here is a true story for you:

Company X claimed users voice commands never left their devices. Then someone leaked recordings of people having sex, commiting crimes, etc recorded from X devices. This was brought up by media. For every concerned user there were ten apologist trying to justify this behaviour and a week later everyone forgot this ever happened.

If you’re talking about Amazon, those stories did affect Echo sales, and the trajectory of the category overall. When was the last time you read a breathless article about how smart speakers will change everything?

I was thinking of another company, but I am very happy that Amazon bottom line was affected (?)

Post a link so everyone can remember. If it's something you care about, you need to keep reminding people. I'll post stuff about police brutality on threads that are relevant. It helps remind everyone that they are susceptible to the whims of any rogue policeman at any given time, regardless of social status. Most likely with no recourse.

Hilarious. I knew what they meant. Fanboys and their short memories. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2019/07/30/confirm...