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Re:Driving engineers to an arbitrary date is a value destroy... by andruby on Friday August 06, 2021 @06:21AM (#28085264)
And yet, what I see is that enterprise software seems much less polished than consumer software.

My assumption is also that enterprise software contains _more_ bugs than consumer software.

Re:Driving engineers to an arbitrary date is a value destroy... by cheschire on Friday August 06, 2021 @06:49AM (#28085420)
That's probably why articles like this get written so often. The companies who create enterprise software seem to think they're still working on scale.

And I don't intend my loot box reference to be taken too seriously. The gaming industry isn't any better. As an obvious example, Cyberpunk 2077 was delivered as a hot mess only to meet overhyped timelines.

But look at games like Apex Legends, Fortnite, etc. They work very diligently to ensure the core gameplay is solid so streamers will provide eyeballs, driving lootbox sales. Whales provide the biggest investments there, with some individuals spending thousands of dollars for cosmetic lootboxes in what would otherwise be a free game.

Then look at games like Quake Champions which should've been successful in the same way, and completely failed because they didn't focus on making the core game tech (net code specifically) rock solid before attempting to monetize. They immediately lost the pro crowd and failed to convert the people playing Quake Live (or even the die hard Q3A players).

Enterprise software often doesn't spend enough time improving core process loops, or worse, provides too many core loops making the experience disjointed and unproductive.

Re:Driving engineers to an arbitrary date is a value destroy... by pjc50 on Friday August 06, 2021 @07:07AM (#28085537)
Yes, the "whale" is the single huge client who pays a lot of money for the enterprise software. The client is not the users. The sales pitch for enterprise software is where the polish goes.
Re:Driving engineers to an arbitrary date is a value destroy... by hef19898 on Friday August 06, 2021 @08:45AM (#28086378)
For Enterprise software I take auditable, stable processes and performance over a polished UI every single time. Also talking as a long time user of the poster child, SAP. Enterprise software doesn't have to be pretty, it has to do its job. And that requires a lot effort, I'd argue more effort than developing a polished consumer facing app.
Re:Driving engineers to an arbitrary date is a value destroy... by crucialfelix on Friday August 06, 2021 @03:52PM (#28091994)
I am guessing it has to do with the style of product managers in enterprise. A lot more non-technical PMs, people with BI backgrounds?