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Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by syedkarim on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @01:37PM (#2808492)
Would there be any reason that perceived performance would decrease when the cpu load is 50% of the total number of cores? We have an X5660 with 24-cores and once the one-minute average gets over 12, pageload times increase dramatically.
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by wiredfool on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @04:11PM (#2809261)
Check your disk stats, or memory. Most of the time when I've had high load averages, it's been because the disk system is swamped and there's a whole bunch of processes waiting on io.

For example, in the classic apache dos failure state, you wind up with enough apache processes that some of them are forced out of memory, and then you start swapping and fall over. What you'll see then is a really high load average and long page load times. Looking at something like vmstat 1 or top, or iotop you can see if it looks like memory, disk, or something else.

From your description, you probably have enough cpu resources to saturate something else. Maybe the DB server, maybe your memory. When that happens, your processes stack up and your load average rises. It looks like you don't have neough CPU, but that's probably not it.

Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by azim on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @03:00PM (#2808927)
What's likely going on is fairly complicated to delve in to in a comment thread like this. However one possibility is that Linux just has a terribly hard time scheduling with that many cores. Processes attempt to maintain locality up to a point, but tend to move around between cpus when another has more free time. Moving results in a cold cache needing refreshing, and that significantly slows down work.
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by mrich on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @01:44PM (#2808524)
make sure you are looking at physical core count, not hyperthreaded cores (which should be a 2x difference for your CPU).
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by keeperofdakeys on Wednesday July 27, 2011 @04:27AM (#2811310)
A hyperthreaded cpu actually emulates an extra core. A cpu with a single physical core and a hyperthreaded core is seen by the OS as two cores, it doesn't know anything about the hyperthreading. This means that the load average 2.0 means the system is fully loaded, not 1.0.

Although, it is much easier to go from 1.0 to 2.0, as opposed to 0 to 1.0 on such a cpu, because the cpu can't handle much more work before it gets overloaded.

Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by scott_s on Wednesday July 27, 2011 @12:21AM (#2810749)
Lacking any other information, I would look into this explanation first - I have seen many experiments on cores with SMT contexts where the performance plateaus at the total number of cores, not SMT contexts.
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by syedkarim on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @01:48PM (#2808542)
Am I using the wrong command to count physical cores (I'm guessing so? grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l What should I use to count physical cores?
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by mrich on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @02:47PM (#2808845)
/proc/cpuinfo are hyperthreaded cores, as exposed to the OS. For basically all the modern multi-core Intel Xeon CPUs you can divide that by 2. It seems you can also find out by looking at physical ID and "cpu cores". On a 64 (hyperthreaded) cores machine, I see physical ID 0..4 and cpu cores 8 in this case, which would mean 8*4=32.
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by mrich on Wednesday July 27, 2011 @06:50AM (#2811599)
small correction: "physical ID 0..3"
Re:Understanding Linux CPU Load - when should you be worried? by sciurus on Tuesday July 26, 2011 @02:46PM (#2808843)
`grep 'core id' /proc/cpuinfo | sort -u | wc -l` will work. See http://serverfault.com/questions/262867/how-to-find-out-if-m...