Well see you guys need to be nuanced and maybe you're not capable of seeing the nuance in the current binary love hate zero nuance Zeitgeist discourse. there's irony in there but my beliefs are clearly very different to yours so the irony is different to your irony. But my sentiment is totally true it is all about choices about being brave and having ambition that's how you can get what you want rather than playing the fake victim demanding others give to you and always being disempowered and pretending that somehow to empowerment.

It is not. Look at poster’s other comments.

Well the final word would on that would have to come from me you couldn't decide that as you wouldn't know if I'm being ironic, cuz even if you see on my other comments each thing I say is an individual choice where I decide exactly what I'm trying to mean. Each thing I say expresses my own free will--and you're not privy to that and you don't know me--and there's no way you can actually know if I'm being ironic or not from seeing my other comments. but in this case yes I am not being ironic in the sense that you think I might be (the gestalt sentiment of the statement) but I am being ironic in another way but because our beliefs are so different most of the people here will probably not see my irony.

With most of the responses, I am also not clear on this.

I read it as ironic.

If it is not then: Wow.

Ridiculous statement: "It just goes to show, it's never about gender, just about choices, ambition and how brave you choose to be."

Followed by: "Fuck yeah!"

--> Ironic in my world, but "the other side ("feminists") seem to have adapted to also address / talk to (deceive/decept) 'more conservative' people with their speech. We try to include/reach each other.

Wow I love how you say that's a ridiculous statement.. to me that's completely true about the world. for you to think that's a ridiculous statement means to me that you are just giving away your power to everyone else letting everyone else set the terms of everything pretending that your choices don't matter and then it doesn't matter your ambition on how brave you out. To me sounds like you just want to start from this disempowered position. By choice no less. But if you take the other path and take personal responsibility? That's empowering. Fuck yeah!