You're right, but an FYI: Madoff took the plea, that's why it was so fast in his case (well, it took fucking forever to "uncover" but then was really fast).

Bernie Madoff ran a ponzi. He paid returns with other investor monies. Holmes ran a pure fraud. She put lives at risk with her tests. Potentially, peopled died. She deserves an extremely long and punitive jail sentence.

People also died from circumstances created by Madoff's fraud, including one of his sons.

I would not put it past Holmes to raise this point as a mitigating factor.

Doubt she will see a day in prison.

It's a lot harder to jail someone for lying about how they are managing a company, and for running a medical lab poorly, than it is for running a ponzi scheme.

Intent matters quite a bit in the former, but not very much in the latter.

When you rob Henry kissenger of millions of dollars and all his buddies who one being bill Clinton ex president, I'm very curious to see what happens next.

I'd almost argue its a net benefit to the world if it wasnt for the fraudulent test results thay real people thought they could rely on.

Any moneys taken from a kissinger "merchant of chaos" types, should be celebrated.