Re:NYC to mandate proof of vaccination for many indoor settings
by ipaddr on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @06:21PM
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What about the lingering effects of the vaccine? Many seem to have this tiredness or general unwellness.
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Re:NYC to mandate proof of vaccination for many indoor settings
by nindalf on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @06:51PM
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> “Many seem”
Citation needed for such an extraordinary claim.
If you don’t mind, could you share data on the UK, a place where nearly all adults aged 30+ have received two doses of the vaccine? It simplifies the discussion because there’s no question about self selection bias. If there’s any negative effects, it should surely have manifested in a large subset of this group of tens of millions of people, across ages and ethnicities.
Not just a handful of cases here or there. I’m talking about 0.01% or more of this population suffering some persistent harm. Not something that disappeared after a day or two.
Re:NYC to mandate proof of vaccination for many indoor settings
by logicchains on Thursday August 05, 2021 @01:28AM
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VAERS records around 10k deaths post-vaccination in the US. Around 150 million Americans have been vaccinated. If all those deaths were caused by the vaccine, that would be 0.006% suffering the extremely persistent harm of death. In fact it's not known however whether those deaths following the vaccination were necessarily caused by covid, but unfortunately very little follow up (autopsies) is being conducted, so there's no way to know. Counter-balancing that is the fact that previous research has found "Adverse events from vaccines are common but underreported, with less than one percent reported": https://digital.ahrq.gov/ahrq-funded-projects/electronic-sup...
Re:NYC to mandate proof of vaccination for many indoor settings
by nindalf on Thursday August 05, 2021 @05:19AM
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0.006%. That’s minuscule. Does that statistic also include people who got a vaccine and then got in a car accident?
Re:NYC to mandate proof of vaccination for many indoor settings
by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday August 05, 2021 @09:22AM
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Generally, yes.