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Re:NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restau... by babesh on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @05:14AM (#28058870)
There is no need to argue with you anymore. First you say that all vaccines are safe. Then when I find examples of them being unsafe, you say it was a manufacturing mistake from 60 years ago. Then when I find another from 1998 you argue that bowel obstructions are not long term and that it was 3 decades ago. Then I find another from only 4 years ago and you say that it is only one example. Then I go and find two more. Keep on walking back your claims.

Note that many of these vaccines were already approved and not under emergency use authorization. Ever wonder how many side effects vaccines under trial have and how many never make it out of trials?

Re:NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restau... by himinlomax on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @05:45AM (#28059085)
I never said all vaccines are safe. You were not arguing with me, you were arguing with a strawman of your own making.
Re:NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restau... by babesh on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @06:01AM (#28059188)
Himinlomax - “Yes we do. There are hundreds of vaccines, none have long term side effects. There was some suspicion regarding one flu vaccine and narcolepsy, but it's been mostly ruled out and is entirely due to the peculiar etiology of that disorder, not the vaccine as such (the virus it targets is the known trigger for that autoimmune disord…”

“Ah, at last, one relevant example. So you're right, there is one case where a vaccine had negative side effects, long term. Out of hundreds of vaccines. Doesn't change much to the argument, statistically.”

“I never said all vaccines are safe.”

Re:NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restau... by himinlomax on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @07:01AM (#28059581)
> long term side effects
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Re:NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restau... by babesh on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @06:00PM (#28066977)
“himinlomax 13 hours ago [–]

That's still 3 decades, and that was short term”