Re:Florida Sheriff's Office Now Notifying People Of Inflicti...
by mikeblackson on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @02:17PM
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Both of your statements come from a place of tremendous privilege and the rationalizing of slavery ($0.20-0.50 of income in 2021 is good?) so some of the largest companies in the US and the defense department can manufacture goods with huge profit margins is problematic. Perhaps more independent research about this topic is required on your end.
Re:Florida Sheriff's Office Now Notifying People Of Inflicti...
by France_is_bacon on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @04:42PM
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oooooo.....the scary "privilege" claim. I guess that is used as the general end-all word. I guess because you used the word "privilege", that's the end of the discussion.
Re:Florida Sheriff's Office Now Notifying People Of Inflicti...
by mikeblackson on Thursday August 05, 2021 @08:13AM
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I'm quite comfortable but would never advocate slavery for any human being. If anything these prisoners should be paid a minimum wage and funds only released post completion of sentence. A significant % of recidivism is due to being poor and having little to no options from my understanding.
>Because when you break the law and get caught, you give up your freedom to choose.
Being poor in the USA is a criminal offense.
In any case, it seems like there is a LOT of discretion around the mandatory work issue. So it would seem to me that in a prison, if a prisoner wanted to work on getting a degree, that he or she should be able to use work hours for that and either the warden or the state law allow it. After all, it is the most proven thing I've ever seen to prevent recidivism. That's what we want. We don't want someone to get out of prison and start breaking into our homes and cars. I've had my car broken into many times, and it's a pain because it costs money, but the bigger pain is the time it takes to deal with it.
As far as slavery....well, I understand your point. However, people are incarcerated and put in a cage against their will. Because when you break the law and get caught, you give up your freedom to choose. It's not just forced work, but even if one didn't have to work, it still is like slavery - you are made to live in one place, can't have visitors except when supervised and get permission and for very short periods, told when and where to eat and must eat what they serve. It's pretty much slavery anyways, even taking the work part out. But as I hear it on the videos that I watch from former prisoners, most prisoners WANT to work, because it gets boring in prison, so while it is mandatory, it's also by choice too. And some jobs are very much coveted by prisoners. And mostly the do get paid. Probably a good idea to pay 50 cents so that the poor convicts with no family to put money in the canteen account will get something, as I said before, the canteen is extremely important.