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Re:The Dangerous Ideas of “Longtermism” and “Existential Risk” by AbrahamParangi on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @07:27PM (#28055517)
"adherence to the scientific norms of restraint, objectivity and skepticism"

This is science. It's what science is made of. Abandon these and you abandon science altogether. Which is fine, I guess, but it has no connection to reality.

Re:The Dangerous Ideas of “Longtermism” and “Existential Risk” by sammalloy on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @08:21PM (#28055890)
I think you might have missed the point of this criticism. It is not science that is the problem, it is the way it is practiced, which in this case tends to be too conservative and operates by consensus. Bill McGuire explains the problem:

> "They’re conservative, because insufficient attention has been given to the importance of tipping points, feedback loops and outlier predictions; consensus, because more extreme scenarios have tended to be marginalized."

A good summary of the overall problem is found here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/19/you-shoul...

Re:The Dangerous Ideas of “Longtermism” and “Existential Risk” by ThomPete on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @12:41AM (#28057367)
you are arguing against one type of bias by introducing another. This is not science this is ideology.
Re:The Dangerous Ideas of “Longtermism” and “Existential Risk” by sammalloy on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @03:31AM (#28058285)
My argument represents the exact opposite of bias. If the IPCC estimates are too conservative and result in poor predictions, and if their consensus mechanism excludes worst case scenarios, then more inclusive estimates and including more scenarios leads to more impartiality—the opposite of bias.
Re:The Dangerous Ideas of “Longtermism” and “Existential Risk” by ThomPete on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @04:01AM (#28058469)
how do you know that your choice of sources isnt the one thats biased? You dont. You are engaging in ideology not science. The very fact that you dont see this and just assume you have the right perspective illustrates my point. You are an ideologue.