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Re:China quietly sets new 'buy Chinese' targets for state co... by rayiner on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @02:13PM (#28052269)
If Democrats run Harris they will lose even against Trump. My mom, an immigrant who voted Democrat reflexively, has straight up said she won’t vote for her. My dad is enough of a Yellow Dog Democrat that he probably will vote for her, but he’s really hoping it doesn’t come to that.

The media bubble around Harris is driving Democrats straight to the cliff. Minorities, who make up 40% of the party and are over represented in critical swing states, don’t like her. She was polling at mid-single digits among Black voters in the south (behind Biden, Sanders, and Warren) before she pulled out: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black.... She was polling around the same among Latinos in her home state of California.

Apart from that, she’s a terrible retail politician. When I went to see the candidates speak in Iowa back in 2019, Elizabeth Warren stood around giving everyone hugs and taking selfies after the speeches were over. Harris, meanwhile, quickly retreated to her campaign bus to avoid having to shake hands and talk to people.

Re:China quietly sets new 'buy Chinese' targets for state co... by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @03:53PM (#28053354)
> The media bubble around Harris

You mean the bubble of persistently hostile coverage, or something that doesn't actually exist?

Re:China quietly sets new 'buy Chinese' targets for state co... by rayiner on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @06:47PM (#28055208)
I’m talking about the coverage on news sources aimed at Democrats like CNN/MSNBC that fawned over her and papered over her major flaws as a politician. My personal favorite, as a south Asian, is how the media portrayed her nomination as a major victory for us, despite little enthusiasm for Harris among the group. (Everyone I know who supported her is white.)

This sort of coverage is a liability for Democrats because it insulates them from information. A glaring example of this is Elizabeth Warren. It should have been news from the beginning that she had failed to establish personal networks with Black or Latino voters during her tenure as Senator. Her Super Tuesday supporters were 80% white, for an electorate that was only 50% white. When Democrats win elections by turning out Latinos in the southwest and Black people in the south, Warren won just 5-6% of those voters on Super Tuesday, behind Michael Bloomberg.

Elizabeth Warren was a dead-on-arrival candidate because minorities didn’t like her and they’re 40% of the Democratic Party. That should have been a huge story. Instead, the media fawned over her for months because they personally loved Warren. Super Tuesday this blindsided everyone, even though it should have been predictable given what we knew about Warren from the beginning.

If Biden doesn’t run in 2024, expect to see similar fawning coverage of Harris, focused on her “historic” identity and papering over her flaws as a politician. That creates a very real risk that Democrats nominate someone who their own base doesn’t like very much.

Re:China quietly sets new 'buy Chinese' targets for state co... by tptacek on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @10:37AM (#28061509)
Elizabeth Warren got roflstomped in the primaries. In nationalized races, I doubt retail politics matters at all anymore.