Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by trasz on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @06:11AM
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Capital punishment is not murder. Even killing millions of innocent people, like the US likes to do for financial and racial reasons, is not technically a murder.
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Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by pjc50 on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @06:51AM
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It kind of is though, even if nobody convicted Andrew Jackson.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by adrianN on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @08:46AM
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I don't think the comment you are replying to was using the technical definition of murder.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by henearkr on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @12:15PM
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I think they were referring to the fact that the state has the monopoly of violence: it is the only moral agent, in the country, with the right to kill without making it a crime.
So it's a murder "technically physically" but not "technically legally".
PS: I'm not endorsing death penalty in anyway. I oppose death penalty.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by b0tzzzzzzman on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @07:55AM
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Sanctioned punishment.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by imwillofficial on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @08:34AM
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Murder is a killing that is not justified. Having a state’s blessing does not make it correct.
There is such a thing as legal murder.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by RHSeeger on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @09:13AM
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No, there isn't. Murder has a specific meaning, and being unlawful is part of it.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by imwillofficial on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @02:46PM
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Murder has a meaning that predates legal definitions.
Also, many groups in history are currently accused of murder despite it being legal at the time.
From slave owners to Nazis, from communists to African warlords.
So are these not murders because they are legal?
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by trasz on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @09:46AM
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I’m not claiming that “murder by state” is somehow correct or less evil. My claim is, it’s not a murder; words have their defined meanings.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by imwillofficial on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @02:47PM
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So Nazis did not commit murder because it was legal. Got it.
Re:Infrastructure bill cryptocurrency surveillance provision...
by trasz on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @07:48AM
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They committed genocide. Even worse, obviously, but it fits the definition of word “genocide” better than “murder”, thus I believe we should be using that word instead.
Okay, let’s use another example. Is software piracy stealing? Some people claim it is. I don’t, because words have meanings.