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Re:Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible by loonster on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:06PM (#28043814)
Need to add a fence to your list or a large enough garden to withstand losses.

This was our first garden year. Very small plot, around 6'x6'. Deer knocked over our two tomato plants and ate every tomato off. Huge green tomatoes.

Re:Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible by quesera on Monday August 02, 2021 @07:48PM (#28044153)
True. If it's not the deer (rural, suburban), it's the rats (urban).

Container gardening on a (south-facing) high rise balcony works pretty well, though.