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Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:09PM (#28042665)
> All viruses get less lethal as time goes on, not stronger,

This isn't true. Given certain assumptions, it's true on average, but those assumptions don't apply in this case.

Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by eitland on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:01PM (#28043256)
Agree.

For a specific example the Spanish Flu hit harder later on.

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Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:48PM (#28043120)
No, it comes from this model:

Highly-deadly diseases will kill their hosts quickly, limiting their spread. Therefore, one of two things will happen:

• A less-deadly variant will emerge, spread faster, and outcompete its more deadly cousin.

• The deadly disease will kill enough of the population that its R number drops below 1, and thus the deadly disease will die out.

Therefore, observed diseases will tend to get less deadly over time.

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If you look at the data, we're firmly in “kill enough of the population” town (to the extent you can stretch this model to our situation). The variants we're seeing spread are getting more virulent over time, not less, because:

• we don't want to die and we're doing stuff about that, meaning any model with “most individuals infected are removed from the model” in it is a flawed model; and

• we have fast long-distance travel, so any population model that relies on Euclidean locality is a flawed model.

Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by infamouscow on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:34PM (#28043535)
I'm not sure I agree with you (yet), but thanks for providing info rather than downvoting!
Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by dddddddan on Monday August 02, 2021 @05:52PM (#28043166)
You haven't cited any data.
Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by infamouscow on Wednesday August 04, 2021 @12:46PM (#28063194)
> Among the 469 cases in Massachusetts residents, 346 (74%) occurred in persons who were fully vaccinated

> Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm