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Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by bawolff on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:21PM (#28042104)
> Adding those two populations together would seem to indicate that most Western populations are already at herd immunity by this point

That's assuming that nobody who got covid later got vaccinated (or got it before the vaccine kicked in). That seems like a very unrealistic assumption to me. On the other side, there are probably a lot more cases than are reported.

You're right that it almost certainly matters for heard immunity, but i think you need a much more complex model to know how much of an effect it has.

Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by throw_nbvc1234 on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:34PM (#28042265)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...

CDC estimated that 1/4 covid infections had an associated positive test. I did the same kind of napkin math you're referring too for Floridia a few months back and they'd could have been at 80% of the population with some level of immunity.

But napkin math probably isn't a good way to run a pandemic response. Just like herd immunity doesn't really matter at an individual level.

Re:The UK’s delta surge is collapsing by bawolff on Monday August 02, 2021 @04:44PM (#28042379)
I'm also not sure how much the usa experience applies to other countries. They seem to have not liked lockdowns and masks very much.