Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by raxxorrax on Monday August 02, 2021 @08:43AM
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As a EU citizen I don't criticise Israel for their weapon exports to much as that would be heavily hypocritical and it would also neglect the fact that EU officials actually want to implement said surveillance towards its citizens. That is not a fault of Israel, even if you want it to be.
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Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 02, 2021 @09:48AM
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Surely it is a fault of Israel – and also the EU? Just because our lot do it too, that doesn't stop it being a problem.
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by raxxorrax on Monday August 02, 2021 @11:16AM
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I would feel pretty stupid to criticise Israel when it comes out that my own government ordered their software. They supposedly didn't buy it, but it was on the table for negotiation.
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by tremon on Monday August 02, 2021 @11:44AM
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Why? Were you party to that decision of your government?
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by raxxorrax on Monday August 02, 2021 @12:43PM
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I live in a democracy so I am partially responsible for anything my government does. Even and especially when it does something I don't like.
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by effie on Monday August 02, 2021 @06:23PM
(#28043443)
Yes if you voted for that government, otherwise no.
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by wizzwizz4 on Tuesday August 03, 2021 @09:11AM
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I'd argue you still have responsibility for your government's actions, regardless if you voted for them. Your responsibility as a citizen is to hold your government accountable, whether that's by voting, writing letters, talking, protesting, or (in the extreme case) civil disobedience or rebellion.
Unfortunately, the more important it is to hold your government to account, the harder it is. I, personally, don't have the strength to do that, for all I talk of it.
Re:Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware sc...
by effie on Thursday August 05, 2021 @11:56AM
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Yes oversight and influence on the government is responsibility of citizens. It does not mean that citizen is responsible for government's actions (as in I am member of a group of people to blame for their government's actions). These two responsibilities are two very different things.