You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by codegeek on Sunday August 01, 2021 @01:04PM (#28027869)

I doubt UBI will make everyone stop working. As far as I understand, the point of UBI is to ensure that people are not homeless, have enough to put food on the table and it covers your absolute basic needs. Lets say we implement UBI at 1K/Month which is what people like Andrew Yang proposed. That is not enough to just sit at home all day. You still need to make money but hopefully with that 1K, you won't be homeless (or at least thats the idea).

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by vmladenov on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:02PM (#28029380)

I’m still not clear on why UBI won’t just raise the price floor on everything (rent in your example) to the point where it becomes ineffective again. In Mountain View, landlords raised rents when they heard companies were giving a bonus for people living within 15 miles. Some even included it in their advertising.

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by james-skemp on Sunday August 01, 2021 @05:01PM (#28029928)

> Some even included it in their advertising.

I'm really curious what the language/spin was to make that something that was included in the advertising.

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by HomeDeLaPot on Monday August 02, 2021 @11:34AM (#28038014)

I don't think OP means the rent hike was included. More like "We're within 15 miles of Google offices! Move now and qualify for their bonus!"

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by james-skemp on Monday August 02, 2021 @03:49PM (#28041740)

That makes me feel better, if so.

Although reading it again ...

> In Mountain View, landlords raised rents when they heard companies were giving a bonus for people living within 15 miles. Some even included it in their advertising.

I've never been to the west coast, but I would assume that location to the various offices would already be part of the advertising. I regularly see it in this area for Epic and the University.

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by corvuscorvid on Sunday August 01, 2021 @01:22PM (#28028063)

I'm confident that there are many, many people who would choose to continue living with no permanent home (tent, RV, etc) and spend their UBI on oxy, meth, heroin or crack.

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by SuoDuanDao on Sunday August 01, 2021 @01:35PM (#28028220)

At least they wouldn't need to turn to petty crime quite so often. And they'd have a means of getting some stability in their lives, which tends to reduce rates of addiction.

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Re:You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resi... by daerogami on Sunday August 01, 2021 @10:14PM (#28032208)

I'm curious where your confidence comes from. Do you know many people pulling in a stable income while also living out of a tent, smoking meth?

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