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Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by nwallin on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:16AM (#28024701)
Why do people buy printers that aren't from Brother?
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by spiritplumber on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:50AM (#28024851)
I have a HL-1440 that is old enough to still have a Centronics connector (in addition to USB1) and it's a tank. I had to take it apart once between 2008, when I got it from a university that was throwing it out, and today. It prints all my shipping labels.
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by Ballas on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:19AM (#28024714)
Although I agree with the statement for other reasons, do you know that Brother does not do anything similar to what is reported in the article?
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by hitpointdrew on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:12AM (#28025439)
If you follow the link in the article to the EFF site, they basically warn that they no longer maintain a list of printers that have these dots, because every modern printer has these. Basically there are no options if you don’t want these dots.
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by R0b0t1 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:23AM (#28024728)
I remember the advice to buy a brother circa 2015-2017. Apparently it has changed? Personally unsure, I just bought one, as I worked backwards from "which printer has the cheapest toner" and it is still brother.

There is no way to force the business models to keep printing on a full cartridge that has met its page limit(per reviews on Amazon), and the salesman at a store told me brothers have replaceable parts in them now besides the toner carts that they force you to replace.

Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by diamondo25 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @04:56AM (#28024894)
Brother software has always been the worst experience for me. Its like some ancient Windows XP setup that you have to download from a 2003 website that sometimes gives errors and isnt very helpful. Uninstalling feels like Norton, where you probably need extra software to remove the crud it left behind.
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by KirillPanov on Sunday August 01, 2021 @05:21AM (#28025004)
Why do people waste time on any "bonus software" they found in the box with their printer?

This is why I love Brother printers: I've never had to touch their software. Ever. Been buying their printers for over a decade. You pipe postscript to them on port 9100, they print it. Done. Their software could be 100% refined APT-malware, and I'm totally okay with that.

Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by hitpointdrew on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:08AM (#28025425)
Brother software? I bought a Brother a few months ago, no software install on any device required. I just plugged it in, and it worked. Hell I can even print from my phone to it.
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by drivers99 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @09:57AM (#28026267)
The Brother software I have on Windows 10 opens an application window (as seen on the taskbar as a running app, not the system tray) that is trying to ask me to update, but there is no visible application window. I have to right click the icon and choose Exit to get rid of it.
Re:Why printers add secret tracking dots (2020) by nine_k on Sunday August 01, 2021 @12:21PM (#28027428)
Because HP or Lexmark or Epson or Xerox used to be great, I suppose.

They often are not any more, at least on the software side.

Also, of course, if you need to produce really great colors (think 6-color inkjets), or really large printouts (say 3' wide), your choice is narrower.