Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by tzs on Monday July 25, 2011 @05:48AM
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Has this alleged assault been proven? I don't recall reading about any charges being filed. Based on her original blogging about the alleged incident, I suspect we are not getting the full story.
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Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by rbanffy on Monday July 25, 2011 @08:44AM
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This implied accusation of the victim to be, somehow, the cause of the misconduct (as in "you can't expect to be dressed like this and not attract unwanted attention") is one of the reasons such attacks are sometimes not reported.
Imagine if someone breaks into your home and steals your TV and, when you file the report at the police station, the cops implies that, by having a simple lock, you actually invited people in to steal your TV.
Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by tzs on Monday July 25, 2011 @01:48PM
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There's a big difference between dressing suggestively and going around at a drunk party touching a bunch of men intimately, and then moving off with a group to a restaurant and continuing to drink and touch people.
Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by rbanffy on Monday July 25, 2011 @04:25PM
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And that's what I said about implying the victim, somehow, caused the abuse, that the victim actually wanted to be abused.
Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by tzs on Monday July 25, 2011 @05:58PM
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When you go around actually touching people intimately, you are not a victim nor abused if some of them interpret that as you wanting to be touched back and act on that. It only becomes abuse if they don't back off if you tell them to stop at that point.
Re:O'Reilly to adopt anti-harrassment Code of Conduct for Oscon
by kscaldef on Monday July 25, 2011 @07:16PM
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"He grabbed me, pulled me in to him, and kissed me. I tried to push him off, and told him I wasn’t interested (I may have been less eloquent, but I don’t think I was less clear). He responded by jamming his hand into my underwear and fumbling."