74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the vaccinated

Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by briefcomment on Saturday July 31, 2021 @11:56AM (#28019243)

If vaccines don't stop transmission, then the only reason to get a vaccine is to protect yourself from severe symptoms. That contradicts what I've often been hearing that you should get the vaccine for the benefit of others. When the only effect the vaccine will have is on yourself, it becomes a personal question rather than a societal one.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by belltaco on Saturday July 31, 2021 @12:39PM (#28019626)

> That contradicts what I've often been hearing that you should get the vaccine for the benefit of others

I don't know why everyone keeps harping on this to blame the experts and cast doubt on them. The virus changed. What was said in the past was true about the earlier variants. The Delta variant works differently.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by ghoward on Saturday July 31, 2021 @12:49PM (#28019732)

This is not casting doubt on what experts said. It's casting doubt on what others have said about what experts have said. It is media and politicians that say people should get the vaccine for others.

Of course, if experts said that too, well, they were wrong if the vaccinated can spread the virus about as much as the unvaccinated.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by briefcomment on Saturday July 31, 2021 @01:04PM (#28019840)

I'm not saying anything about experts. I'm saying that the concept that you should get the vaccines for others looks like it's moot. That means the only consideration you should have about getting the vaccine is if you want the extra protection for yourself.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by bamboozled on Saturday July 31, 2021 @06:26PM (#28022030)

If you get the vaccine and stay out of ICU, you’re doing it for others.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by briefcomment on Saturday July 31, 2021 @07:04PM (#28022214)

You mean by freeing up hospital beds? That's orders of magnitude less of a benefit than stopping exponential contagious spread, so not nearly as compelling of a reason.

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by bamboozled on Sunday August 01, 2021 @01:40AM (#28024067)

You're not freeing them up if you're never in one ?

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Re:74% of recent Covid cases in parts of MA were among the v... by nickthemagicman on Saturday July 31, 2021 @01:11PM (#28019903)

Lobotomies won the Nobel prize in the 40's supported by experts.

Thalidomide was highly used by the medical experts.

The view that slaves and Jews were inferior was backed up by 'experts'.

The Vietnam war was sold by 'experts'.

This new found belief that the experts are infallible gods to be worshipped ...is super creepy, ignorant, and authoritarian.

The experts deserve to have doubt cast on them and need to justify their views and be held accountable.

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