> Like many environmental initiatives I worry that we’re more concerned about making ourselves feel better than actually solving the problem.

Either way, instead of reifying the relevant facts and statistics and iterating on them (or upturning them when invalidated), we tend to debate them repeatedly, even over decades as manufacturing methods and trends in society change.

(this is me pining for a system like arguman[1] with the critical mass of wikipedia to help forge these debates into more reliable, long-term results)

[1] - https://github.com/arguman/arguman.org