Can you show me the exact number of adverse events observed after, say pfizer covid vaccine, in real world use?
Can you show me the exact number of breakthrough infections observed after, say pfizer covid vaccine, in real world use?
Even if these numbers are available, then it is anyone take if they want to trust the entity that collected this data..
Basically, it always comes down to "trust", if you are not the once who is collecting the raw data and doing the analysis on it.
Also, you would be very wrong is "consensus" cannot be set on a single flawed metric, you would be very wrong as well.
If you want my attention, you'll have to show me evidence that vaccines have caused millions of people to die within weeks and millions more are currently suffering serious long term illness. But you can't show anything like that. You're playing an infantile game of "I demand exact numbers" in order to hide the fact you're asserting phantom dangers while unable to offer any numbers of your own.
The problem is that you are essentially imposing your trust in the institutions, onto others.
Trust in "science" is fundamentally different from trust in "scientists". Even though it might make sense to apply societal pressure to mandate trust in "science", it makes no sort of sense to mandate trust in "scientists".
I think it is hard for a lot of people to see or acknowledge the distinction between "Science" and "Scientists" which is causing these debates..